Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 254 Location: Seattle, Washington U.S.
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:01 pm Post subject: EAA Av Art Forum ? It is Possible!
A recent letter from a friend who has approached the EAA...Comments and suggestions from Pros here very much welcomed even if it is early in the day...
It would not necessarily bean ASAA event.
Gentlemen,
The EAA's Adam Smith has responded with enthusiasm to my suggestion of
aviation art-related event(s) at a future AirVenture. Please see his
comments below. In short, he is eager to help us organize "something".
That "something" is the big question. It would be presumptuous of me, as a
non-artist, to suggest what would be best. May I impose on you both to send
me your comments/thoughts? A few bullets will be enough for starters.
It does appear that we might be able to slip a forum in yet this year, but
to be honest, it might be best to aim for 2011 and do this right.
Since a major focus of AirVenture is education, I would encourage us to
consider workshops at AirVenture, both for the many amateur artists who
attend each year, and for the professional artists who should see this
annual event as providing the greatest collection of subjects at one place
at the same time. There ought to be some means to provide the pros with a
place to sell their work, too.
Wouldn't it be great if there were, one day, an entire building/tent
dedicated for artist forums, workshops and sales opportunities? Perhaps
this could be arranged with the Vintage Aircraft Association folks, now that
they have their new Vintage Hangar right next to all those amazing vintage
and antique aircraft. HG ought to be able to help in this regard, and I have
some friends on the Board of the VAA who might be able to help.
I look forward to your comments.
Please do not worry about who might ultimately be in charge of whatever
might evolve from these discussions. I am happy with my role of cheerleader
and go-for, as it will only provide yet another reason for my wife to spend
the week with me at AirVenture, the best week of my year, hands down.
Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 254 Location: Seattle, Washington U.S.
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject:
More: this subject has been talked about for years at the EAA ,with no conclusion being made.To some degree they are already busy enough at the time of the Fly-in that trying to figure a venue out for this is difficult. In a way they have been waiting for some ideas from the Aviation Artists themselves.It would seem an ideal place for the ASAA to step in,but in the past the ASAA has shown little interest,due to scheduling problems,preference for Air Force Bases & Aviation Museums, costs, difficulties in getting there, and not enough time given to do a full forum for artist members. Valid enough in light of the learning priorties in ASAA by-laws.
What is in the very earliest planning discussion ( & I do mean early) is not an ASAA Forum by any means ,but much much smaller. A group of 3-10 artists who would given several public Art discussions ( of some sort) to the people attending the Fly-in or another event in the EAA Calendar.It might include some sort of workshop directed at Artists in particular…who knows?
It might offer to show a few originals & a chance for sales &/or commissions to those attending,but that has yet to be discussed.In any case sales in this economy are very problematic.
This is literally a toe in the water- do not draw your swords or get your hopes inflated,but positive ideas are most welcome.
Jim Dietz
Joined: Nov 01, 2005 Posts: 1229 Location: Charlotte, NC
Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject:
Thats super news, Jim, especially in light of the fact that EAA killed off their annual art exhibition a few years back. Good to know that they haven't forgotten about us.
I'm sure that I'll have more ideas as I ponder it, but it sounds to me like this could be aviation art education geared more towards the amateur artists rather than the more serious minded types that attend the ASAA forums. Is that correct. Perhaps a sort of art-appreciation class could be offered to "educate" the general public as to what constitutes "good" and "bad" art (yeah, I know, don't say it... ). _________________ I paint, therefore, I am.
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Joined: May 15, 2006 Posts: 207 Location: Denver Colorado
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:42 pm Post subject:
I think a juried art auction would be a win win for the venue as well as the artists. A certain number of pieces are accepted (depending on the size of the venue etc.) and given awards much like the ASAA shows, the difference being they are auctioned off with the venue getting a certain percentage of the sale.
A good example of this is the western art association. Each year they have a 3-4 day event with artists doing "quick draw" and plein aire works that are included in the final auction.
An event where artists, collectors, and general enthusiasts are all welcomed equally to appreciate the best art of the genre, can only help to raise the bar on the quality of work presented, and help develope artist / collector relationships. _________________ Kevin Weber
Joined: Nov 15, 2006 Posts: 80 Location: Bara del Chuy, Uruguay
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject:
Hi guys,
Here is a quote from the above letter:
"Wouldn't it be great if there were, one day, an entire building/tent
dedicated for artist forums, workshops and sales opportunities?"
If art is going to be displayed (originals,prints, etc.) a tent won't work. The venue needs to be at the very least inside a building that is clean, doesn't leak and has good lighting and security.
Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 254 Location: Seattle, Washington U.S.
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:54 am Post subject:
Let me put this into perspective...what they are looking at is giving AV Artists a toe in the door,to test the waters so to speak.Perhaps 3-10 artists( probably more like 3-5 artists who would bring 1-3 pieces of work & do presentations with & without Power point to attendees of either the Fly-in or another suitable event during the EAA year.The attendees to these events are a good deal more knowlrdgable than you might think & tend to want to know more about the artists , their approach ,technique etc. than going once agian up the muddy road of "is it art?"
I do not know who might be invited if this goes past the talking atage , nor do I know who at EAA would choose those artists.I'm going out on a limb to see who might be interested here & clearly I'm not getting alot of response ( but I respect those here who have said a word or two...)
If the artists prove good presenters more &?or others might be asked to return the next year , building a network of knowledge of the event.
I too when I was an active ASAA member hungered for a sales venue,but ASAA members have to be careful what they wish for-Even a small sales event is a world of work,with sales that are never dependable & the work required by the artists attending would gut the ASAA Forums,simply by the fact that they would eventually have to decide between one or the other...and not even the EAA would donate a tent or a building...it would have to be rented or a percentage of sales would go to the EAA or one of its charities.
So for now let me know who might be interested in talking about it more & use your imaginations in trying to figure an inventive presntation of yourself & your artwork to an interested group of Aviation enthusiasts...
Joined: Jan 16, 2006 Posts: 254 Location: Seattle, Washington U.S.
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:34 pm Post subject:
Yes you have a better network there than I do...but please remember this is very "iffy"...I would think the formatt of lectures & presentations is open to ideas.When I was there 5 or so years ago ,I did several show & tells in the gallery next to the paintings & one slide lecture in the theater that was about an hour long.I would expect at the minimum this would be to be expected.
In 1988 when Frank Wooton came over ,the EAA did a 2 day Forum that was directed primarily at Aviation Artists.Now I think the ASAA has that road well traveled....
I'd be happy to help out! Being new to this "arena" I may not have the right connections in place but I'm sure there will be a myriad of things to do if this does "take flight" ... count me in _________________ Mark - "Need more art in my artwork"
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 1776 Location: Southeast US
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject:
Dietz wrote:
... The attendees to these events are a good deal more knowlrdgable than you might think & tend to want to know more about the artists, their approach ,technique etc ...
I'm "officially" available as well if invited. Yes, at my last museum job I came across many EAA'ers and they not only know airplanes inside and out (literally), but they also were very interested and $upportive of my art. Can't think of a better target audience to share the passion.
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