Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:42 am Post subject: Spotted this.
Spotted this amazing print of Eagles Out Of The Sun with the signatures of eighty one Luftwaffe fighter pilots (all holders of the Knight's Cross).
These are the signatories:- Gunther Bahr, Franz-Josef Beerenbrock, Helmut Benneman, Toni Benning, Hans-Ekkehard Bob, Hugo Broch, Hermann Buchner, Wilhelm Crinius, Hugo Dahmer, Kurt Dahlmann, Adolf Dickfeld, Arnold Doring, Peter Duttmann, Diethelm Von Eichel-Strieber, Franz Eisenach, Heinz Ewald, Siegfried Freytag, Adolf Galland, Adolf Glunz, Alfred Grislawski, Josef Haibock, Gunther Hannack, Hans Heindorff, Hajo Hermann, Rolf Hermichen, Werner Hoffman, Dietrich Hrabak, Wolfdieter Huy, Eduard Isken, Herbert Kaiser, Fritz Karch, Friedrich Korner, Walter Krupinski, Herbert Kutscha, Heinz Lange, Sigfried Lemke, Karl-Hermann Lion, Stefan Litjens, Walter Loos, Hans Lutter, Heinz Marquardt, Maximillian Mayerl, Julius Meimburg, Johannes Naumann, Edu Neumann, Hermann Neuhof, Erhard Nippa, Fritz Obleser, Viktor Petermann, Rolf Pingel, Gunther Rall, Karl Rammelt, Ernst-Wilhelm Reinert, Willi Reschke, Ralph Von Rettberg, Edmund Rossman, Helmut Ruffler, Eric Rudorffer, Gunther Schack, Wolfgang Schenck, Hermann Schleinhege, Winfried Schmitt, Karl-Heinz Schnell, Hellmut Schonfelder, Gerhard Schopfel, Walter Schuck, Leo Schuhmaker, Otto Schultz (Wittner), Fritz Seyffardt, Johannes Steinhoff, Bruno Stolle, Hans Stollnberger, Fritz Tegtmeier, Gerhard Thyben, Johannes (Hannes) Trautloft, Rudolf Trenkel, Willy Unger, Hans Weik, Franz Woidich, Walter Wolfrum.
Anyone care to hazard a guess at the cost? _________________ Albatros D-Va
Last edited by Stormchaser on Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:40 pm; edited 2 times in total
Or this one signed by forty nine Knight's Cross winners.
Erich Hartmann, Gunther Rall, Franz-Josef Beerenbrock, Helmut Bennemann, Toni (Anton) Benning, Hans-Ekkehard Bob, Hugo Broch, Hermann Buchner, Hugo Dahmer, Adolf Dickfeld, Arnold Doring, Peter Duttmann, Heinz Ewald (Esau), Wolfgang Falck, Alfred Grislawski, Hans Heindorff, Hajo Herrmann, Werner Hoffmann, Wolfdieter Huy, Herbert Kaiser, Walter Krupinski, Herbert Kutscha, Heinz Lange, Ed (Eduard) Lindinger, Stefan Litjens, Walter Loos, Heinz Marquardt, Maximilian Mayerl, Hermann Neuhoff, Erhard Nippa, Viktor Petermann, Willi Reschke, Edmund Rossmann, Erich Rudorffer, Helmut Ruffler, Gunther Schack, Wolfgang Schenck, Winfried Schmidt, Karl-Heinz Schnell, Hellmut Schonfelder, Gerhard Schopfel, Otto Schultz (-Wittner), Gunter Seeger, Fritz Seyffardt, Bruno Stolle, Johann Stollnberger, Rudolf Trenkel, Franz Woidich, Walter Wolfrum.
Two nice items if signatures are your thing. _________________ Albatros D-Va
Last edited by Stormchaser on Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:41 pm; edited 2 times in total
They were 2 or 3K when on the Leisure Galleries site, but his prices are always way over the top (both photos and prints). Some of his signed photos have been there for years. I've seen him buy 1 on e-bay and add 1000% to the paid price.
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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:03 am Post subject:
Leisure galleries still may have that Don Gentile/John Godfrey signed 8 x 10 photograph ... for nearly $7,000!! Desireable, yes, but for that much I want a panel off of Shangri-La included!
A friend of mine has the ULTIMATE 4th Fighter Group collectible. It's a very thick autograph book that an Intel Officer kept from 42-45. He evidently had it close at hand because you cannot name a 4th FG pilot who did not sign the book personally along with his home address. Some pilots signed multiple times. The "gravy" in the book are pages of original artworks, some in watercolor, by a couple of famous guys like Don Allen and Kidd Hofer. Hofer, it isn't well known, was an artist himself. His work definitely had the "experienced" touch.
I had the pleasure of "flipping through" the book personally, and let me tell you, I have offered up to three large original paintings for it ... no dice! I have been assured, however, that his wife has been instructed that if something happens to him, I get the book ... hmm ...
Reason I mention this is he said Leisure Galleries offered him a RIDICULOUSLY low figure (we laughed loudly for several minutes) for this near-priceless artifact after, I assume, he was trying to have it appraised for insurance purposes.
Maybe if I offer him FIVE paintings ...............
Liked this one too, limited edition book, print and extra signatures.
Signed by Bill Reid, Martin Drewes plus additional signatures (not normally found on this edition) of Wilf Burnett (138 Sqdrn), Bill North (61 Sqdrn), James Tait (617 Tirpitz Sqdrn), Alex McKie (617 Sqdrn), Freddie Watts (617 Sqdrn), Douglas Newham (10 Sqdrn), D M Strong (10 Sqdrn), Peter Spodden (German night fighter pilot), Norman Scrivener (106 Sqdrn), John Petrie-Andrews (35 Sqdrn), Tony Iveson (617 Sqdrn), Jimmie James (9 Sqdrn).
Comes complete with signed and numbered collectors volume of the Robert Taylor book Air Combat Paintings Volume IV _________________ Albatros D-Va
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I can remember similar or even the same ones on Leisure Galleries like mentioned by yerger for an extreme price.
I saw the prints then elsewhere on an other webpage but didn't add a bookmark and couldn't find it anymore. What where the prices for the prints you showed up ? Would be interesting to see if they are below Leisure Galleries ?
Does he, John Ihnotic, actually ever sell anything? The story of his valuation of the 4th FG autograph book and diary for Wade's friend is almost laughable and immediately sets the scene for a place personally where I don't want to be. (see my Christmas Rant). First impressions are everything IMHO in terms of who you want to deal with in this very competitive overcrowded marketplace. _________________ Albatros D-Va
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:25 am Post subject: Re: Spotted this.
Stormchaser wrote:
Spotted this amazing print of Eagles Out Of The Sun with the signatures of eighty one Luftwaffe fighter pilots (all holders of the Knight's Cross).
These are the signatories:- Gunther Bahr, Franz-Josef Beerenbrock, Helmut Benneman, Toni Benning, Hans-Ekkehard Bob, Hugo Broch, Hermann Buchner, Wilhelm Crinius, Hugo Dahmer, Kurt Dahlmann, Adolf Dickfeld, Arnold Doring, Peter Duttmann, Diethelm Von Eichel-Strieber, Franz Eisenach, Heinz Ewald, Siegfried Freytag, Adolf Galland, Adolf Glunz, Alfred Grislawski, Josef Haibock, Gunther Hannack, Hans Heindorff, Hajo Hermann, Rolf Hermichen, Werner Hoffman, Dietrich Hrabak, Wolfdieter Huy, Eduard Isken, Herbert Kaiser, Fritz Karch, Friedrich Korner, Walter Krupinski, Herbert Kutscha, Heinz Lange, Sigfried Lemke, Karl-Hermann Lion, Stefan Litjens, Walter Loos, Hans Lutter, Heinz Marquardt, Maximillian Mayerl, Julius Meimburg, Johannes Naumann, Edu Neumann, Hermann Neuhof, Erhard Nippa, Fritz Obleser, Viktor Petermann, Rolf Pingel, Gunther Rall, Karl Rammelt, Ernst-Wilhelm Reinert, Willi Reschke, Ralph Von Rettberg, Edmund Rossman, Helmut Ruffler, Eric Rudorffer, Gunther Schack, Wolfgang Schenck, Hermann Schleinhege, Winfried Schmitt, Karl-Heinz Schnell, Hellmut Schonfelder, Gerhard Schopfel, Walter Schuck, Leo Schuhmaker, Otto Schultz (Wittner), Fritz Seyffardt, Johannes Steinhoff, Bruno Stolle, Hans Stollnberger, Fritz Tegtmeier, Gerhard Thyben, Johannes (Hannes) Trautloft, Rudolf Trenkel, Willy Unger, Hans Weik, Franz Woidich, Walter Wolfrum.
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 6:55 am Post subject: Re: Spotted this.
Stormchaser wrote:
Spotted this amazing print of Eagles Out Of The Sun with the signatures of eighty one Luftwaffe fighter pilots (all holders of the Knight's Cross).
These are the signatories:- Gunther Bahr, Franz-Josef Beerenbrock, Helmut Benneman, Toni Benning, Hans-Ekkehard Bob, Hugo Broch, Hermann Buchner, Wilhelm Crinius, Hugo Dahmer, Kurt Dahlmann, Adolf Dickfeld, Arnold Doring, Peter Duttmann, Diethelm Von Eichel-Strieber, Franz Eisenach, Heinz Ewald, Siegfried Freytag, Adolf Galland, Adolf Glunz, Alfred Grislawski, Josef Haibock, Gunther Hannack, Hans Heindorff, Hajo Hermann, Rolf Hermichen, Werner Hoffman, Dietrich Hrabak, Wolfdieter Huy, Eduard Isken, Herbert Kaiser, Fritz Karch, Friedrich Korner, Walter Krupinski, Herbert Kutscha, Heinz Lange, Sigfried Lemke, Karl-Hermann Lion, Stefan Litjens, Walter Loos, Hans Lutter, Heinz Marquardt, Maximillian Mayerl, Julius Meimburg, Johannes Naumann, Edu Neumann, Hermann Neuhof, Erhard Nippa, Fritz Obleser, Viktor Petermann, Rolf Pingel, Gunther Rall, Karl Rammelt, Ernst-Wilhelm Reinert, Willi Reschke, Ralph Von Rettberg, Edmund Rossman, Helmut Ruffler, Eric Rudorffer, Gunther Schack, Wolfgang Schenck, Hermann Schleinhege, Winfried Schmitt, Karl-Heinz Schnell, Hellmut Schonfelder, Gerhard Schopfel, Walter Schuck, Leo Schuhmaker, Otto Schultz (Wittner), Fritz Seyffardt, Johannes Steinhoff, Bruno Stolle, Hans Stollnberger, Fritz Tegtmeier, Gerhard Thyben, Johannes (Hannes) Trautloft, Rudolf Trenkel, Willy Unger, Hans Weik, Franz Woidich, Walter Wolfrum.
Anyone care to hazard a guess at the cost?
WOW THE SUPER LIMITED 6150 VICTORY EDITION
although i did only count 80 sigs so im missing one
Gunther Bahr - 37 (90+ night fighter missions)
Franz-Josef Beerenbrock - 117 (400 missions)
Helmut Benneman - 92 (400+ missions)
Anton Benning - 28
Hans-Ekkehard Bob - 60 (700 missions)
Hugo Broch - 81 (324 missions)
Hermann Buchner - 58 (600 missions)
Wilhelm Crinius - 114 (400 missions)
Hugo Dahmer - 57 (307 missions)
Kurt Dahlmann - 0 (ground attack pilot)
Adolf Dickfeld - 136 (1072 missions)
Arnold Doring - 23 (392 missions)
Peter Duttmann - 152 (700 missions)
Diethelm Von Eichel-Streiber - 96
Franz Eisenach - 129
Heinz Ewald - 85 (396 missions)
Siegfried Freytag - 102
Adolf Galland - 103 (705 missions)
Adolf Glunz - 72 (574 missions)
Alfred Grislawski - 133 (800+ missions)
Josef Haiboeck - 77
Gunther Hannack - 47
Hans Heindorff - 0 (250 ground attack missions)
Hajo Hermann - 9 (founder of Wilde Sau)
Rolf Hermichen - 64 (629 missions)
Werner Hoffmann - 51 (192 missions)
Dietrich Hrabak - 125 (1000+ missions)
Wolfdieter Huy - 40
Eduard Isken - 56 (946 missions)
Herbert Kaiser - 68 (1000+ missions)
Fritz Karch - 47
Friedrich Koerner - 36
Walter Krupinski - 197 (1100 missions)
Herbert Kutscha - 47 (900+ missions)
Heinz Lange - 70 (638 missions)
Siegfried Lemke - 96 (325 missions)
Karl-Hermann Lion - 5 (670 Ground attack missions)
Stefan Litjens - 38 (444 missions)
Walter Loos - 38 (66 missions)
Hans Lutter - 12 (400+ missions)
Heinz Marquardt - 121 (320 missions)
Maximillian Mayerl - 76 (647 missions)
Julius Meimberg - 53 (600 missions)
Johannes Naumann - 34 (450 missions)
Eduard Neumann - 13
Hermann Neuhoff - 40 (452 missions)
Erhard Nippa - 0 (300+ ground attack missions)
Fritz Obleser - 127
Viktor Petermann - 64 (550 missions)
Rudolf Pingel - 30
Gunther Rall - 275 (790 missions)
Karl Rammelt - 46 (450 missions)
Ernst-Wilhelm Reinert - 174 (715 missions)
Willi Reschke - 26 (48 missions)
Ralph Von Rettberg - 8 (200 missions)
Edmund Rossmann - 93 (640 missions)
Helmut Ruffler - 98 (690 missions)
Eric Rudorffer - 224 (1000+ missions)
Gunther Schack - 174 (780 missions)
Wolfgang Schenck - 18 (50+ missions)
Hermann Schleinhege - 98 (484 missions)
Winfried Schmidt - 19 (150 missions)
Karl-Heinz Schnell - 72 (500 missions)
Helmut Schonfelder - 56
Gerhard Schopfel - 45 (700+ missions)
Walter Schuck - 206 (500+ missions)
Leo Schumacher - 23
Otto Schultz (Wittner) - 73 (800 missions)
Fritz Seyffardt - 30
Johannes Steinhoff - 176
Bruno Stolle - 35 (271 missions)
Hans Stollnberger - 45 (600 ground attack missions)
Fritz Tegtmeier - 146
Gerhard Thyben - 157 (385 missions)
Johannes (Hannes) Trautloft - 61
Rudolf Trenkel - 138 (500+ missions)
Willy Unger - 22
Hans Weik - 36 (85 missions)
Franz Woidich - 110 (1000+ missions)
Walter Wolfrum - 137 (423 missions)
If only i had that much money to spend...................
Last edited by Stormbird on Thu Dec 29, 2005 9:30 am; edited 2 times in total
Yeah i figured he would have scored some victories but in all the web sites i surfed i could find nothing on sorties flown or victories scored. thanx anyway please feel free to in form me of any other info i missed or have listed incorrect.
An ultra rare signature on a superb print by a great artist.
This print is double matted to include the original war time signature of Heinz-Wolfgang Schnaufer.
During late 1944, RAF Bomber Command was sending huge formations of Lancaster bombers over Germany night after night. During this massive offensive the Lancaster crews were attacked relentlessly by Luftwaffe ME-110 Night Fighters.
Major Heinz-Wolfgang Schnaufer, with 121 aerial victories, was the most successful night fighter pilot of WWII, and scored his 100th kill at 8:55 PM on the 9th of October 1944 over the Ruhr Valley, the event depicted here.
Signed by NJG 1 Knight's Cross holders; Martin Drewes - Wolfgang Falk - Hermann Greiner - Joachim Jabs - Fritz Lau - Ludwig Meister - Hubert Rauh - Fritz Rumpelhardt - Dietrich Schmidt - Erich Weisflog.
The certificate includes a statement signed by Fritz Rumpelhardt (Schnaufer's radioman) certifying the accuracy of this portrayal. _________________ Albatros D-Va
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