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Collecting Aviation Art: A dying market?
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Russell Smith
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January 13, 2016 - 2:57 pm
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Hi folks. Wow, its been a while! Its good to be back. Thanks, Sunny, for sticking with this and bringing things back up to a user-friendly state.

I've really only given this thread a cursory glance, but as to the idea that aviation art is dying, I'd say no. What it IS doing is evolving. Gone are the days of publication-based traditional illustrative work (by that I mean non-digital artwork), as are the days of a signature-driven print market. That's not a bad thing. Many of the newer generation of artists and art collectors have recognized that aviation-art has become a victim of its own and understand that the aviation market has become a victim of its own isolationism. 

There's a big art market out there folks. Getting in on that would not only mean larger markets for the artists, but higher values for individual collections. The question is, how do we get in on the?. That's a question that some of us artists and collectors are trying to answer.

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January 14, 2016 - 12:28 pm
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Russell Smith said 
 
(PS. How do you change the profile icons?)

If you mean the avatar, click on the Profile tab on the top right, then click on Edit Avatar on the pop-up menu.

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January 22, 2016 - 2:18 am
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Maybe not "dead" but very different than in past decades.  i hope there is still interest as time moves forward.  

Its dead for me, my wife very nicely asked me to not buy any more aviation prints - yikes!  She was nice enough about it but she has a point seeing as there is no more wall space.  

I might still be able to buy one or two a year!

So, to all members, keep buying loads of prints and originals so I can see them!

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January 23, 2016 - 2:32 pm
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Hi Folks,  Just thought I'd check-in again being as there seems to be a bit more life on the forum again!

I must admit that I've pretty much given up collecting aviation art over the past few years.  I was mainly collecting signed prints but got bored with the repetitive subject choice mentioned in previous posts above.  I now collect British WW1 medals to the aviation services and enjoy reasearching the recipients, untis, aircraft and techniques.

I still have about 20 prints, some waiting to be framed, but I can't see myself buying any more. If I do return to collecting aviation art, I think it will be originals for me, be that drawings or small paintings.

Jon

 

 

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January 23, 2016 - 4:02 pm
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Welcome back Jon, and thanks for sharing your views on the state of the Aviation Art market.  If you'd like to share your collection of British medals via eHangar, not too long ago Sunny added a forum for Air Forces Militaria in the General Topic section.  I'm sure that many of us would be interested in seeing what you've acquired and hearing about their history.

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January 24, 2016 - 12:54 pm
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Guss said 

 If you'd like to share your collection of British medals via eHangar, not too long ago Sunny added a forum for Air Forces Militaria in the General Topic section.  I'm sure that many of us would be interested in seeing what you've acquired and hearing about their history.

Yes, this. I'm so far the only one that has posted any WWI or WWII treasures. Its kind of lonely in there.clapping

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Thanks for the welcome gents!

I'm "on-call" for work this week, but will put some bits & pieces up next week, work permitting.

Cheers,

Jon

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I didn't think EH was still going, other than on Facebook! Its been quite a few years for me. Its nice to see a genuine forum again. I imagine a few artists may have already refuted (if passionately) the notion that the genre is dying. I paint full-time now as well, and avart constitutes about 70% of my work. 95% of my sales are originals though, and I can also attest to a drop-off in print sales. I am pretty upbeat though, as I generally find at least 2 or 3 new collectors per month.

 

Cheers,

 

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I only have been collecting the last 10-12 years.The market is certainly in a down turn.From 1000 print editions down to 300-400.

I only collect prints I like and they MUST have remarques.I think remarques make the print unique.I don't buy prints for the signatures,I just consider it a bonus.

I have all my prints framed and look at them everyday.I didn't buy them as an investment and don't care if price goes up or down.They will never be sold,whoever handles my estate will take care of that!

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I have been collecting aviation art prints since 1985 with specific interest in Robert Taylor and Gil Cohen.  I certainly have noticed over the last 10 years or so that the value of my prints has stagnated!  I think that this is mainly due to so many prints still coming on the market. . .so saturated.  The signatures I have on my prints are valuable as most if not all the aviators have passed away.  My most prized print is Robert Taylor's JG-52.  The value of that print tells it all!

 

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b17pilot said
I have been collecting aviation art prints since 1985 with specific interest in Robert Taylor and Gil Cohen.  I certainly have noticed over the last 10 years or so that the value of my prints has stagnated!  I think that this is mainly due to so many prints still coming on the market. . .so saturated.  The signatures I have on my prints are valuable as most if not all the aviators have passed away.  My most prized print is Robert Taylor's JG-52.  The value of that print tells it all!

 

Mike  

Yes even in the last few years it has slowed down greatly i watch what are usually hard to find prints on eBay go through many listing with no bids on them. Some are just ridiculously priced to start but a lot are what you would consider bargains compared to a few years ago. The only thing for me is some of the outrageous postage fees asked make picking up a bargain pointless

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February 11, 2017 - 5:57 pm
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WOW ,It is nice to see E Hangar back and some very familiar names on here again 🙂 .I agree with most the points put before but i also wonder now whether it is the sheer quantity of artists available and the subjects being covered multiple times ,i e Battle of Britain ,Dambusters etc,must be hard to come up with new ideas.

In these times of austerity  and art shops in decline not to mention the age group of the collectors i am not surprised that the interest is slowing.The 40 year olds of 20 years ago probably had more interest in WW11 and contact with people and stories involved ,whereas people today may not have that connection.

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The hugely priced prints with mega signatures may be dying out but I find the market is relatively healthy for reasonably priced work. I think the internet has opened a huge world of aviation art to collectors. There is more choice than ever now for collectors who aren't necessarily looking for signatures. Additionally, the steady advance of printing technology has made it possible for the working artist to produce a world-class product on demand. There is little need for the big print houses anymore to finance an artist's career. With a little marketing effort the artist is able to directly reach a worldwide audience. If the product is first class and reasonably priced buyers understand good value for their hard-earned dollar. That type of product sells and there are lots of collectors out there buying it.

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Well I've been a collector of AV Art for 14 years and I've traded for around 6 years, and I'm finally calling it a day. Interest in prints is all but dead. And that includes other subjects, not just Aviation. And I have found that trying to sell original paintings and drawings is even harder ! Todays consumers are simply not driven by collectables any more, and I'm sure the long and continued downturn in the global economy is still contributing and probably will do so for many more years.

Lots of dealers are offloading their stocks, many prints having sat on their shelves for countless years. Look at how many Robert Taylor prints are still available as new 'old' stock ! Eagles on the Channel Front is a great example. Aces High have it at £210. I and others are advertising at £135 and still finding it hard to sell.

I have tried everything to stimulate interest in our hobby, from attending Military Fairs for the hard core collectors and Aviation fairs open to the more general public, but to no avail. Dealers at the Military Fairs tell the same story. Years ago they could make £2,000 over a weekend, today they struggle to do £400. More people have entered the market as traders, whilst overall interest and demand continues to fall.

The time for traders/dealers has gone. Artists will and are doing better dealing direct with clients through the use of multi-media outlets, providing customers with a more direct personal touch that a dealer simply cannot match.

I have enjoyed the journey from discovering AV Art back in 2002, collecting up to 300 prints at one point - Ouch !, and I have loved meeting the veterans at the many signing events over the years. As they dwindle in number, I do feel sorry for the many people who will sadly never have the chance to do so. It is a humbling experience as they talk about their "day in the office", surviving by chance, and of course, just doing their duty.

All the best everyone.

Pete Syd

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Greetings all, I realize this topic responses span several years but I am extremely keen in discussing this being a newcomer. Keen to see if anyone has any contrary views. Not that I am discouraged by the not so positive predictions I feel that realistic points are view are extremely important so keep them coming 🙂

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