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Can a print have too many signatures
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I have been looking at the prints posted by members . Some of the prints have 30 or more signatures on them.

I find myself more attracted to the prints which have less signature density. I like the print to have a lot of signatures, but I like it when each signature has some space.

I would be put off buying a print that had masses of signatures crammed onto the boarder, especially if it was on the top and side boarders as well

I am not keen on matted signatures, as they are not actually on the print. However, I do love the look when they are displayed through a cut-out in the mount.

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this topic has been covered a bit. Signatures are a significant attraction for many aviation art collectors. We have many with interest in signatures on eHangar. For me, its about the image and the sigs are a non-issue. I have seen many an amazing "historical" print with dozens of sigs and its always a complete distraction to me but for some, the more the better.

I also don't care for the high prices with the multi-sig works! I have met a number of very well known celebrities over the years and have never asked for an autograph, I just have no interest in that sort of thing. Whatever works ๐Ÿ˜›

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July 9, 2009 - 9:50 pm
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I have many prints with dozens of signatures, for me it is opportunity to meet these great men, shake their hand and say thank you that means the most to me. The signatures are just the "iceing" on the cake.
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July 9, 2009 - 10:35 pm
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At the last museum I worked at before I quit to paint full time, we had one photograph of a Shuttle or something that had a zillion astronaut sigs around the mat. When the sigs are pilots or other "figures in history", I think the more sigs the better. Good thing I'm not a space collector or we might have 'lost' that item ... ๐Ÿ˜ฏ lol ๐Ÿ˜Ž

Long story short, Russian Bear-H bombers visited Barksdale AFB, La. twice in the early 90s. I worked on base and the first time I bought one of their neat posters with a montage of Bear pictures with some Russian text on the poster. Both visits I carried a magic marker around and had them sign 'wherever' on the poster. I later had it dry-mounted and framed it looks awesome in my studio.

You should see the awesome video footage I have - but that's another story ...

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I'd say yes - signatures on a print can be overdone.

I'm not a big fan of signatures that spill out of the signature area into the white border, or go around the top and sides of the signature area. I've seen some Taylor prints with around 75 signatures where that is the case. To me, that ends up being a distraction rather than a plus.

On the other hand, I have a Flying Tigers print with 50+ signatures where the publisher obviously took great care to carefully arrange the signatures in a reasonable space below the print. It looks fantastic - I love it. I've seen several other prints with around 30 signatures that were also arranged with care, and also add to the appeal of the print.

Bottom line, as long as they are arranged in an aesthetically pleasing way, the more the merrier!

fuzzy

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Most of the big multi-signature prints I have seen do seem to over exaggerate the point of having signatures on the print. I believe you guys may have already covered this but if the print displays the signatures in a professional manner and it does not take away from the image, then I am all for it. Once a bunch of signatures start 'running' into the image, it's just too much.

Now I do have to admit some of the prints I have do have signatures that are all over the lower border, and I try to keep them in that area, but when I get a veteran to sign a print that already has many signatures, I can't ask him to 'Hey, can you keep it in the white border!?' Sure it may seem too much for someone else looking at the print, but knowing those signatures are ones that I obtained personally and I met those guys, then it just becomes a true treasure that I would never part with.

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I personally like the signatures also due to the fact that many of these men are sadly no longer with us...It's also a way to commemorate them on a certain level...With multisignature prints sometimes you have no choice but to cross the borders depending on how many signatures you have...Photo of my Favorite Multisignature print...This print alone is signed by 83 Knights Cross winners...85 if you want to include the matted Hartmann and Barkhorn sig Photobucket

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October 5, 2011 - 5:14 pm
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I believe Fightergeneral's 'Eagles out of the sun' is a good example of a multi-signature print with extra, extra lol signatures and it looks well done.

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October 5, 2011 - 9:21 pm
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When a lot of signatures are added, to me it stops becoming an art print and becomes a historical document. On that matter - the more the merrier as long as they are directly related to the scene / unit / action, etc.

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October 5, 2011 - 10:23 pm
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I agree

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I had the opportunity to see in person many of RT and RTII prints as the Mrs and I dropped into Aces High Gallery in Ojai CA during our return home from a much celebrated Birthday weekend in Santa Barbara, the milestone "big one". Yes, 50 years old..... But no worries here - after all, I don't feel as such and according to my wife I don't act it either......wait, what did she really mean by that?.......Hmmm......

On another note and back to the subject at hand, I saw this print at the gallery and my eye immediately went to it as it had more signatures that I have ever seen on one print. Historically it was a highly valued document, but as a piece of art, well, the art is secondary and almost lost within the signatures, frame, etc. I am on the fence with how many signatures are too many. I can see both viewpoints and agree with both. I suppose in the end it depends on what the collector is striving for and up to the individual to establish how much is too much. The sigs of Barkhorn and Hartmann alone makes this one a historical piece for vaunted Luftwaffe collectors!

Viewing the work of talented artists such as RTI is inspiring and was a treat in itself.

Brian

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October 6, 2011 - 3:49 am
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I think it's down to personal taste as to how many signatures a collector wishes to put on his print.

It's his/her property after all.

I have an artist's proof copy of one of my own prints which has some cherished signatures from people I've met at my shows such as Dame Vera Lynn and the Late and much-missed Raymond Baxter, Johnny Freeborn, Tom Dalton-Morgan, Neville Duke, John Cunningham and Peter Twiss as well as a host of former BoB fighter pilots no longer with us.

Wg Cdr Gerald 'Stapme' Stapleton is on it and that was after I picked him up from his home, to take him to Duxford with me for a signing event there. That journey was an epic of conversation I didn't want to end!

Does all this make it valuable?

To a collector; perhaps. To me, it is utterly priceless.

Whether or not anyone wishes to buy such heavily inscribed prints when they come up for sale is, again a matter of personal taste meeting an opprtunity to aquire.

One thing is, such moments, when these prints of WW2 subjects were signed en masse, by however many who held them as they wrote, are moments that are becoming very scarce now.

And that should be a reason to collect them.

Simon

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October 6, 2011 - 11:24 am
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Well said....It is amazing also how far and how many places a print has to travel sometimes to acquire signatures...some prints were brought to pilots homes ...Some prints I've heard travelled all over Europe to get sig's....The huge multi sign events will be history soon...sad to say but true...

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October 6, 2011 - 5:18 pm
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I agree with these comments. I do think it is a matter of personal taste. What makes a print priceless to me, and I believe Simon hit on this is when you actually get a chance to meet the veterans and spend some time with him. To hear his story up close and in person and then knowing you now have his signature on your print......priceless. I can't tell you how much I enjoy interviewing veterans and listening to their stories then asking them to sign a print. I believe they feel happy to sign them and I am honored to have spent just a moment in time with them that I can now have on a print that I will never let go. IMHO.

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Photobucket I believe there is about 100 signatures in these prints...still looks great in my opinionPhotobucket

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http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/fightergeneral/021_zpsp8veto96.jpg 70 signatures

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http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/fightergeneral/019_zps52qbyiwg.jpg 55 Signatures

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http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/fightergeneral/027_zpsosq1epsk.jpghttp://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/fightergeneral/026_zpshssdpdgy.jpghttp://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/fightergeneral/029_zpsyuv9lgyt.jpg 27 and 22 signatures respectively...It does bother me that the second print has the sigs outside the colored zone...and would present a framing problem...but I love it

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bottom Line for me...I don't think I can have too many ....as long as the actual art is not touched...signature borders and outside is ok...to me

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Wow, these multi-multi-signed prints are amazing to see. As has been said, these are not merely collectors' items but historical documents.

However, I think unless you document who has signed the print, having a lot of signatures may not be as meaningful if you cannot identify the signatories.

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